توسط Behnam » 25 سپتامبر 2007, 13:46
در انجمن گفتگوی HebrewComputing یکی از بتاتسترهای Lotus Symphony مطلبی نوشته است که چندان برای متون راست به چپ امیدوار کننده نیست. از آنجا که وارد شدن به آن انجمن خیلی سفت و سخت است (خیلیها فقط برای فحاشی به آنجا میروند!) من مطلب را در اینجا میآورم.
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Re: Hebrew in IBM Symphony documents (long[rtlRe: Hebrew in IBM Symphony documents (long)
Posted by: "David Baron"
Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:18 am (PST)
I downloaded this an tested it out. It is based on some openoffice version
since a version of soffice.bin is being run as well as IBM's eclipse Java. It
is a husge installation, much larger than openoffice because of this.
Question might be why not just use openoffice which does work with Hebrew?
Lotus Symphony does not support rtl word ordering nor are there any provisions
for ltr or rtl character ordering flags. Note that there are non-printing
Unicode characters to service this stuff and why Word, OO, et al, ignore them
is beyond me. ALL of these programs bury the language parameter as a font
attribute which is in error. This flag may set rtl word ordering and mostly
effects the spellchecker. Nothing to do with the fonts which are mostly
multi-lingual and Unicode nowadays.
LS-docs imported a Hebrew rtf file which once came into OO just fine but
resoundly crashes most all recent versions. The Hebrew, EXCEPT for sequences
with an internal " such as bs"d, et all, seemed to display readably but not
100% correctly formatted. Hebrew can be typed into the program (but X- (or
MS-?) windows handles all this stuff with Unicode).
LS-spreadsheet read a mixed spreadsheet in ods format. Hebrew/numerical!! word
ordering was wrong but I could succesfully edit the spreadsheet almost as in
OO and saved it and when opened in OO, it was 100% OK.
I do not approve of how OO and Word handle Hebrew, being one of the authors of
Dagesh, but at least they do handle it and the codebase in OO is there. Why
this was not simply placed in IBM's version (without this, Unicode standard
compliance cannot be claimed) is beyond me. IBM has always been a leader in
Java and multilingual stuff!
Otherwise, Lotus Symphony looks nice and seems to work well for a beta. My
main non-Hebraic complaint is the need for sooooo much Eclipse stuff, 100s of
mb. And if I want to use eclipse for java and other programming, I would want
LS to use the installation of my distro or windows. I one has the space
available, Eclipse is a alternative to netbeans or jbuilder, "transportation"
among these is mostly available, and both Eclipse and Netbeans can be used
with C++ development as well.
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